America isn’t the same country it used to be according to Donald Trump, who pointed out on Sunday that the numerous indictments against the former president and the 2020 election are signs of a failing democracy.
The New York business mogul appeared on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ where he shared his dire outlook on the American political system, saying, “This democracy – I don’t consider us to have much of a democracy right now.”
Host Kristen Welker then asked for clarification on whether Trump is a supporter of democracy and still believes that it “is the most effective form of government” to which he agreed, but noted that there needs to be certain insurers for that democracy.
"I do. I do. But it has to be a democracy that’s fair," he said. "This democracy — I don’t consider us to have much of a democracy right now."
To Trump, the democracy of the United States is falling apart based on factors like the political prosecution of opponents by the current Biden administration and potential interference that occurs in elections. The former president has seen an unparalleled level of resistance by the establishment in the 2024 race, something that this country has never seen before.
"People understand what’s going on," he said. "We need a media that’s free and fair. And frankly, if they don’t have that, it’s very, very hard to straighten out our country."
Despite his problems with the current government, he did make it clear he doesn’t intend to have a mass layoff of career civil servants if elected, saying, “No, I wouldn’t do that. I want great people, whether they’re Republican or Democrat. I want great people. But I want people that love our country, not people that hate our country."
The New Yorker also addressed the potential of going to prison, saying that it was something he never even thought about. He stated that he was “built a little different” and that he loses no sleep over the matter because he “truly feel[s] that, in the end, we’re going to win.”
Welker once again brought up the question of Trump pardoning himself if elected in 2024, once again slapping down the idea that has been frequently floated by the media.
“I think it’s very unlikely. What, what did I do wrong? I didn’t do anything wrong,” Trump said. “You mean because I challenge an election, they want to put me in jail?”
He also discussed some policy beliefs, specifically tackling the abortion argument and urging Republicans to include exceptions when drafting their legislation. He believes that they will find less success with such harsh laws but doesn’t necessarily state whether he believes in exceptions in principle or not.
“I watch some of them without the exceptions, et cetera, et cetera,” he said. “I said, ‘Other than certain parts of the country, you can’t — you’re not going to win on this issue. But you will win on this issue when you come up with the right number of weeks.”
He also shared how he would tackle the policy if elected to office, saying, “We’re going to agree to a number of weeks or months or however you want to define it. And both sides are going to come together and both sides — both sides and this is a big statement — both sides will come together. And for the first time in 52 years, you’ll have an issue that we can put behind us.”
Watch the full interview below: